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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: shpongle on June 21, 2011, 09:57 pm

Title: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: shpongle on June 21, 2011, 09:57 pm
Hello fellow Silk Roaders,

I am noticing a disturbing trend among many of the new vendors on Silk Road - they don't have a GPG key, or one listed.
If you are a vendor, getting a GPG key and posting it on your SR profile should be mandatory.

I, for one, refuse to send out my address unencrypted - which means if you don't have GPG, I won't order from you. I'm sure a few other people feel the same way.

I understand GPG can be confusing, but if you can't spend the time it takes to learn how to use it - you probably shouldn't be selling drugs over the internet. That being said, there are many GPG tutorials posted around the 'net, and even on this forum.

No more ranting, that was my 2 cents  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: techlord on June 21, 2011, 10:03 pm
Buyers: Do not do business with vendors without the protection of encryption.

Vendors: Please be proactive about destroying the addresses of your customers. It may be convenient, but please do not keep a "little-black-book" of your SR customers' addresses. This is extremely dangerous for both you, the vendor, as well as your customers.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: shpongle on June 21, 2011, 10:15 pm
I second what techlord said.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: Modoki on June 21, 2011, 11:32 pm
Yeah, I don't buy if I can't encrypt my adress as well, though I use post drops. It's just too fucking dangerous and yet not too hard for sellers to use PGP. man, srsly.
Greets, M
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: Kind Bud on June 22, 2011, 03:39 am
PGP for addresses should be a must. Any database can be hacked and having any identifying information outside of your won control is a huge risk.

Everyone should also put PGP code on their user page (even if nothing else). When I click on someone and their page comes up with a PGP public key, it's a great reminder to encrypt to them before messaging.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: rake on June 22, 2011, 01:51 pm
Couldn't we enforce PGP keys on all vendors somehow.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: DeeBrown on June 22, 2011, 02:24 pm
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Agreed! I would never buy from an vendor that could not keep information private no matter what it is (digital books, hosting...etc). I am not anonymous on this profile.






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Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: Tokin' Minority on June 22, 2011, 03:12 pm
I asked a seller if they have PGP, and they responded "nah as a seller i have never had to use one. i trust the security of sr." He otherwise has great feedback rating.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: nomad bloodbath on June 22, 2011, 05:47 pm
Here's a thread in Security forum where everyone can post there PGP public key, for those that care.
:D

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.0
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: techlord on June 22, 2011, 06:41 pm
This isn't about trusting SR. It's about protecting yourself against would-be attackers. SR has even warned us that he's received threats against us. Are you prepared for such an attack? If SR's server is compromised, would your address be available to anyone in plaintext, or is your sensitive data encrypted? 
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: shpongle on June 22, 2011, 09:50 pm
All great points.
I believe SR said addresses are not stored on any kind of database, and are only temporarily available to the vendor.

But as a buyer, a large portion of the risk is on your end. Using encryption reduces some of the risk, but I still think everyone needs to be aware of the potential dangers of buying. I really don't want to have to turn down any more vendors who refuse to use PGP.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: cronus12 on June 24, 2011, 02:57 am
Heh, even addresses stored temporarily is dangerous. GPG is as simple as knowing how to use your right mouse button.  The choice is either learn to use GPG which is very easy, or go to prison.  I think learning GPG is probably a lot less painful than Brutus having his way with your bung hole in prison.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: thisaintme on June 24, 2011, 01:28 pm
Here is a great tutorial for encrypting messages, written by wicked420 of this very same forum -> http://p3lr4cdm3pv4plyj.onion/guides/kleotxt.html

Easy enough to follow for a complete newbie on PGP like myself, just follow it step-by-step and you are good.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: thisaintme on June 24, 2011, 01:31 pm
Oh and YES, I also agree that using encryption should be mandatory.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: Kind Bud on June 28, 2011, 06:43 pm
GreenCo does not insist on PGP except for wholesale deals. Even if you trust Silk Road, you have to assume that information lasts forever and someone will eventually read anything not encoded. PGP addresses seems like a sensible step, though I am not sure about how much the cops of 2075 will care who bought weed on SR. If you plan on running for president you should absolutely use PGP to buy our weed.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: g4bb3r on June 28, 2011, 07:15 pm
Funnily enough, although I offer and highly encourage buyers to use encryption not a single one who has ordered from me has encrypted their address.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: wicked420 on June 28, 2011, 07:50 pm
^ Thats sad g4bb3r , I will only use PGP when posting private/personal info

I've posted most of the guides I've seen for PGP on this site here:

http://p3lr4cdm3pv4plyj.onion/

If you need any help setting up PGP, just let me know, everything you need is on that page though.
Title: Re: Suggestion To All Vendors
Post by: chronicpain on June 28, 2011, 09:38 pm
Trust me, If I can figure it out, anyone can. GPG at first seemed quite confusing. But after a while, I got the hang of it and now it only takes me a few extra steps to send a secure message...